by Yori Yanover Saturday, February 03, 2007
I don’t do Vicki Polin material any more, but I was sent this clip and had to share it with you. You decide whether or not to share it with the world. It’s an obvious edit, which I’m not crazy about. The anonymous editor collected most of the snippets with Vicki in them, from a 1989 show that featured a long row of memory recovery types.
Missing from the clip is the psychologist, who appears in the transcript. I would have liked to see that. Also missing is the part where Oprah tells the folks at home that not all Jews eat their children, only the bad ones.
Here’s the link. Enjoy. Below I’ve reprinted the transcript. The file is 7.5mb, and it’s not being served up. It’s slow, but not terribly so.
Vicki as Rachel on Oprah, May 1, 1989
OPRAH: As a child, my next guest was used also in worshipping the devil, participated in human sacrifice rituals and cannibalism. She says her family has been involved in rituals for generations. She is currently in extensive therapy, suffers from multiple personality disorder, meaning she’s blocked out many of the terrifying and painful memories of her childhood. Meet “Rachel,” who is also in disguise to protect her identity. You come from generations of ritualistic abuse?
“RACHEL”, Was Used In Satan Worship Rituals: Yes, my family has an extensive family tree, and they keep track of who’s been involved and who hasn’t been involved, and it’s gone back to like 1700.
OPRAH: And so you were ritually abused.
“RACHEL”: Right. I was born into a family that believes in this.
OPRAH: Does everyone else think it’s a nice Jewish family? From the outside, you appear to be a nice Jewish girl?
“RACHEL”: Definitely.
OPRAH: And you all are worshipping the devil inside the home?
“RACHEL”: Right. There’s other Jewish families across the country. It’s not just my own family.
OPRAH: Really? And so who knows about it? Lots of people now.
“RACHEL”: Well, I talked to a police detective in the Chicago area, and several of my friends know, and I’ve spoke publicly before, and…
OPRAH: So when you were brought up in this kind of evilness, did you just think it was normal?
“RACHEL’: I blocked out a lot of the memories I had because of my multiple personality disorder, but, yes. I mean, it’s like if you grow up with something, you think it’s normal. I always thought something…
OPRAH: So what kinds of things? You don’t have to give us the gory details, but what kinds of things went on in the family?
“RACHEL”: Well, there would be rituals in which babies would be sacrificed, and you would have to, you know…
OPRAH: Whose babies?
“RACHEL”: There were people who bred babies in our family. No one would know about it. A lot of people were overweight, so you couldn’t tell if they were pregnant or not, or they would supposedly go away for awhile and then come back…
“RACHEL”: The other thing I want to point out not all Jewish people sacrifice babies. I mean, it’s not a very typical thing.
OPRAH: I think we kind of know that.
“RACHEL”: I just want to point that out.
OPRAH: This is the first time I heard of any Jewish people sacrificing babies, but anyway–so you witnessed the sacrifice.
“RACHEL”: Right. When I was very young, I was forced to participate in that– in which I had to sacrifice an infant.
OPRAH: And the purpose of sacrifice is to what? Is to bring you what? What are you sacrificing for?
“RACHEL”: For power…
OPRAH: Power. And so were you ever used? Were you ever used yourself?
“RACHEL”: I was molested. I was raped several times.
OPRAH: What’s your mother doing in all of this? What’s her role in all of this?
“RACHEL”: What is– I’m not exactly- -what her role is– I haven’t, you know, recovered all of my memories, but her family was extremely involved. You know, she brought me to it. Both of my parents brought me to it.
OPRAH: And where is she now?
“RACHEL”: She lives in the Chicago metropolitan area. She’s on the human relations commission of the town that she lives in, and she’s an upstanding citizen. Nobody would suspect her. Nobody would suspect anybody involved in it. There’s police officers involved in it. There’s, you know, doctors, lawyers, Indiana chiefs involved in it.
OPRAH: Are you kidding?
“RACHEL”: I mean, it’s not the person, you know, who looks scummy that’s involved in it. It’s someone who looks normal….
OPRAH: Were you raised with a sense of right and wrong, “Rachel?”
“RACHEL: Yes. I mean, it’s like we, I had both. I mean, to the outside world, everything we did was proper and right, and then there were the nights that things changed, that things just got turned around. What was wrong was right, and what was right was wrong. That’s what helps to create some of theto develop MPD.
OPRAH: Multiple personality disorder.
“RACHEL”: Right, right.
OPRAH: I know a lot of people are shaking their heads here, and I’m sure that when you go back home, I mean, everyone’s going to try to make you look like you’re crazy.
“RACHEL”: Oh, definitely.
OPRAH: Absolutely.
“RACHEL”: They do that all the time.
OPRAH: Now in your family. did you all call it worshipping the devil, “Rachel?”
“RACHEL”: No.
OPRAH: Or did you…
“RACHEL”: I don’t know.
OPRAH: It was just evil. these things you did.
“RACHEL”: It was– right.
OPRAH: Right.
“RACHEL”: Well, I said it was evil, and they said it was good. There’s a book that I had just come across called [Lilith’s Cave: Jewish Tales of the Supernatural by Howard Schwartz, New York, Oxford University Press, 1988] which is a book of Jewish mysticism and supernatural, and there’s a lot in that book that relates to what I endured when I was a child.
OPRAH: I want to stop right here, though. because you know how people build prejudices. I want to make it very clear this is one Jewish person, so don’t go around now saying to people, you know, “Those Jewish people, they’re worshipping–‘. This is just one person. Okay.
“RACHEL”: Most Jewish people do not do what my family did.
OPRAH: Okay. Thank you very much.
“RACHEL”: I mean, I don’t know very many other Jewish people who would do what I did.
OPRAH: But you know how people hear one thing, and then go off and they say, “I heard on ‘The Oprah Winfrey Show’ today that… ”
“When I was very young, I was forced to participate in that [ritual] in which I had to sacrifice an infant.” — ‘Rachel’, The Oprah Winfrey Show, 1989
When that show was aired, the Anti Defamation League jumped to attack Oprah Winfrey for irresponsibly allowing a woman to broadcast the blood libel on the basis of “recovered memories.”
Now, it appears that the woman with the wild claims is none other than Vicki Polin, founder of The Awareness Center, the Jewish Coalition Against Sexual Abuse/Assault. So claim Yori Yanover and Luke Ford. I tried researching the allegations a while back, and was able to determine that Vicki was working in 1989 for the same Chicago organization that the pseudonymous ‘Rachel’ was working for.
If Vicki is Rachel, here’s the key question: Was Vicki Polin raised by a murdering Sabbatian cult? Or is she a victim of false memory syndrome?
If the former, then the highest moral priority would be to prosecute the cult. To start with, shouldn’t her parents be investigated? If that level of evil is happening in the Chicago Jewish community, what excuse is there for Vicki and her collaborators to be wasting their time posting every Israeli sex crime on the Awareness Center web site?
And if ‘Rachel’s story is false — as I am quite inclined to believe — what does that say about Vicki and her judgement? What does that say about the presumption that accusers are always telling the truth?
Or in other words: If the allegations are true, and if we are to take the Awareness Center seriously, why focus on the ‘survivors’ of abuse when there so many innocents who didn’t survive?
Why the silence?
Where is the outrage?